Bitcoin On Air: August 2019

Saturday 31 August 2019

Bitcoin is still cheap- Below $100000 is cheap

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I was watching THE MOST EXCLUSIVE STORES IN BEVERLY HILLS!! on YouTube and notice the Bitcoin sign.

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I never feel satisfied with my BTC amount

Over a year ago I set myself a life goal to aquire a certain amount of BTC. I did hit that goal a while ago, and have almost doubled it. I still don't feel like I have enough.. I still feel like I am missing out, even though I have spared every penny I could and put it in there. Does anybody else feel this way? Does the feeling ever go away? via /r/Bitcoin http://bit.ly/2MPSs3W

Lowtech Bitcoin mnemonic creation via dice & archiving script

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Apparently old news but just noticed you can pay with BTC, so here's a reminder!

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Submitted August 31, 2019 at 07:36PM by Schwammosaurus_Rex http://bit.ly/2PwwZz4

Blockchain Startup Bitwala Will Launch iOS and Android App - Cryptocratist

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Jack Dorsey's Twitter gets hacked, highlights importance of 2FA for Bitcoin holders

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Submitted August 31, 2019 at 04:59AM by cryptoslate http://bit.ly/2UhZUp4

The irony - My bitcoin wallet holds fiat !

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Apparently old news but just noticed you can pay with BTC, so here's a reminder!

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Coinomi wallet hack

My coinomi wallet got cleaned out 5 minutes after I deposited 0.5 BTC (5 minutes after the final confirmation).I have never shared my master seed, nor held any copy anywhere.Also 72 zen, 599 zcl and even 0.03 ltc went out at the same time. Any help? Already made a ticket. *and 31 btcpBTC: http://bit.ly/2LeiEms http://bit.ly/2ZFBK9o http://bit.ly/2LeiECY http://bit.ly/2ZHz8b1 https://explorer.btcprivate.org/tx/f4b69ed3b70441bab3b5a5c006b1b39d880543940ae2bf58749eb6403cd9b418The thing is I never stored seeds on phones/notepads/emails. I have been using the same wallet for a lot of time (2 years +) and never had problems with it. I moved the seed from phone to phone (when upgrading) but I always took the master seed directly from the app. Never sold any previous phone or pc/laptop, still have ALL of them. Didn't link or connect to any weird 3rd party apps. Tried retracing my steps and searching everything I've done and still nothing. Scanned every phone/pc in my house.Was also using this wallet for mining.Opened a support ticket and Coinomi came back with the usual replies, told me to reach the police.The thing is Romania barely has roads, let alone cyber-police. So they told me to sue Coinomi.Does anyone have any idea of a European cyber-police or anything like this?Or any advice? via /r/Bitcoin http://bit.ly/2LcY2v0

Human beings are fundamentally driven by incentives. If our money and culture incentivizes us to consume lots of resources, then that is what we will do. Bitcoin can change this, if people choose to play the game of life by new rules.

Bitcoin introduces incentives that encourage people to save, be frugal, and take personal responsibility over their finances.

Our planet is suffocating under the weight of human civilization. We have to make our economy more eco-friendly.

Bitcoin offers people an alternative path. This is what our government, businesses, bosses, friends, and family all need to understand, otherwise the next 100 years will not be pretty.

Submitted August 31, 2019 at 08:14AM by the420chronicler http://bit.ly/2UiFRHa

1.4 Million Brazilian Point-of-Sale Devices to Support Bitcoin Payments [via CriptoHub.com.br]

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Submitted August 31, 2019 at 10:27AM by jasselnorm http://bit.ly/2UhTarv

ATOMARS_NOS_REWARD_BOT

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Submitted August 31, 2019 at 05:42PM by Amethyst_glamorous http://bit.ly/30NDO0l

This bad boy on my keychain

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livecoinwatch testing the 100k bitcoin level

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Daily Discussion, August 31, 2019

Please utilize this sticky thread for all general Bitcoin discussions! If you see posts on the front page or /r/Bitcoin/new which are better suited for this daily discussion thread, please help out by directing the OP to this thread instead. Thank you!If you don't get an answer to your question, you can try phrasing it differently or commenting again tomorrow.We have a couple chat rooms now!GeneralPrice TalkPlease check the previous discussion thread for unanswered questions. via /r/Bitcoin http://bit.ly/2Up5TIT

Dont be scared by daily fluctuation of bitcoin because they want you to panic sell - Majority of bitcoin trading is a hoax, new study finds

https://cnb.cx/2UeX1Fy

Submitted August 30, 2019 at 06:55PM by harrysown http://bit.ly/34f9xK0

Friday 30 August 2019

Which part of Portugal are we moving too?

Portugal is a big place. Wouldn't it make sense for bitcoiners to all live in the same place? Then the local merchants would all have incentive to accept bitcoin as payment. Any suggestions?

Submitted August 31, 2019 at 03:18AM by Leading_Zeros http://bit.ly/2ZugdFe

1.4 Million Brazilian Point-of-Sale Devices to Support Bitcoin Payments [via CriptoHub.com.br]

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Wise words

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Human beings are fundamentally driven by incentives. If our money and culture incentivizes us to consume lots of resources, then that is what we will do. Bitcoin can change this, if people choose to play the game of life by new rules.

Bitcoin introduces incentives that encourage people to save, be frugal, and take personal responsibility over their finances.Our planet is suffocating under the weight of human civilization. We have to make our economy more eco-friendly.Bitcoin offers people an alternative path. This is what our government, businesses, bosses, friends, and family all need to understand, otherwise the next 100 years will not be pretty. via /r/Bitcoin http://bit.ly/2UiFRHa

At my local Farmer’s Market!!! In Alabama, if you can freakin’ believe it!!

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Submitted August 31, 2019 at 05:29AM by migraine_fog http://bit.ly/2MMcUT9

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Submitted August 31, 2019 at 09:23AM by exoblock http://bit.ly/2UibhgV

World’s 1st crypto banks get licenses in Switzerland

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Submitted August 31, 2019 at 05:22AM by Leading_Zeros http://bit.ly/2MNeaWd

Bitcoin bank accounts now available to European citizens

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Submitted August 31, 2019 at 03:25AM by xzclusiv3 http://bit.ly/2ZBUjeB

Bitcoin mining facility by Blockstream being constructed in my hometown of Adel, Georgia!

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Submitted August 31, 2019 at 04:21AM by TRoberts309 http://bit.ly/2ZBUk29

Lightning security alert: upgrade your nodes please!

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Submitted August 30, 2019 at 05:45PM by RustyReddit http://bit.ly/30MyhXE

Don't be like this, buy the dip

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Submitted August 30, 2019 at 07:15PM by deltads http://bit.ly/2MLYzGu

In Terms of Risk-Adjusted Return, Bitcoin Eclipses All Else

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Wrote this in 2017, still relevant: Don't Fall For The Hype: Why Bitcoin's $10,000 Price Does Not Reflect Its True Value.

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Don't be like this, buy the dip

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Earn a passive income

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Submitted August 30, 2019 at 06:55PM by cryptotalk77 http://bit.ly/2zvrCp5

Lightning security alert: upgrade your nodes please!

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It's been a while. He bought the dip. Og creator BIZONACCI

https://youtu.be/GhPkLr9IjYc

Submitted August 30, 2019 at 02:44AM by quinnaa199 http://bit.ly/2ML6jbM

ICYMI Samsung added BTC. To galaxy s10 wallet

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Submitted August 30, 2019 at 07:40AM by Franzferdinan51 http://bit.ly/2L6wyY8

/r/bitcoin subscribers count poised to rise? Recent trend is undeniable!

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Daily Discussion, August 30, 2019

A friend loaded $60 worth of bitcoin in our old SMS-based Bitcoin wallet service from back in 2014 (discontinued). It's still there, 0.3041 BTC. He's withdrawing it today and it's now worth $2,870. The easiest way to HODL is to forget it.

https://twitter.com/MiguelCuneta/status/1167292292895404032

Submitted August 30, 2019 at 12:32PM by Godfreee http://bit.ly/2L5S9Qa

Plan B on predicting halving prices: "if I would have made that model, the linear regression, only in the first four years, it would have been exactly the same. So, I could have predicted the next halving value and the second halving value with only the first four years" Link to podcast.

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Submitted August 30, 2019 at 03:10AM by Onsyde http://bit.ly/2PlXh73

Thursday 29 August 2019

A friend loaded $60 worth of bitcoin in our old SMS-based Bitcoin wallet service from back in 2014 (discontinued). It's still there, 0.3041 BTC. He's withdrawing it today and it's now worth $2,870. The easiest way to HODL is to forget it.

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⏲ 82% of the way to the next bitcoin halving! This train can't be stopped!

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Antminer s9 amp consumption (and type of power cord needed)

Hi guys :) thank you beforehand because i know you will help me in my confusion :)

i got some antminer s9 13.5th, but it has no power cord. Can i use a normal pc power suply power cord? or it needs to be a special type of power cord? (i will use 220v)

also whats the total amp draw from each s9? i know according to calculations it should be around 13.5ish amp on 110v and 6.6 amp at 220v, but when i use 220v wouldnt it draw 6.6amp per each line ,and since 220v is 2 lines, it will draw 6.6 ampx2?

and in case you can help me :) and know it :) assuming a house has 2 of wire number 8 as income (i think 50amp each cable) so total 100 amp, at 220v, i can put at most 5 or 6 antminer s9 right? (to leave around 15 to 20 amp free for housing purposes)

thank you

Submitted August 30, 2019 at 11:13AM by Akromatx http://bit.ly/34aHtr1

1 full btc bought at the dip! Let’s get this fellas!!!!!!

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Submitted August 30, 2019 at 08:44AM by pkafan4lyfe http://bit.ly/2ZD4MdE

Finished reading "The Bitcoin Standard"

Never had so many questions in my life. Thank you Saifedean! via /r/Bitcoin http://bit.ly/2MKIv7B

[Lightning Network] Tippin Goes Mobile! Tip tweets from your own phone, with Bitcoin (Full wallet)

After a few months of hard work, I'm proudly announcing that tippin.me, the tipping platform based on Lightning Network that I released back in December, is going mobile.

And mobile means a full Lightning Network enabled wallet on your phone.

Some highlights:

You will be able to send a tip to a Tweet, from your own phone, without any scanning involved!
Just share the tweet from Twitter App, and you are all set.
You own your keys, you own your coins.
Send lightning payments to tippin @usernames from within the App, just by typing their username.

An early alpha will be available for public testing this week, and Android will be released later.

Thank you for your support!

More Info: https://twitter.com/tippin_me/status/1167151203928723456

Submitted August 30, 2019 at 03:28AM by Eiprol http://bit.ly/2L7ht8x

ICYMI Samsung added BTC. To galaxy s10 wallet

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1 full btc bought at the dip! Let’s get this fellas!!!!!!

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Reminder that 10 minutes is just the AVERAGE time between blocks

This is either an example of the law of averages at play or a lot of new hash power is joining the network. via /r/Bitcoin http://bit.ly/2Hvuiaj

For the love of god, please stop feeding the whales!!!

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Submitted August 29, 2019 at 08:21PM by akcrypto- http://bit.ly/2ZujHmk

Announcing "Mastering the Lightning Network"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=julWo8IJX_8&feature=em-uploademail

Submitted August 29, 2019 at 08:25AM by simplelifestyle http://bit.ly/2ZpAWtN

german anchor Jan Hofer (69) is invested in Bitcoin

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If you believe in BTC's cyclical nature

Then today I'd guess we're in a similar position as we were in October 2016. Roughly $500-600 range back then, or half of the ATH and right on the SF model value.

Today the same price behavior is playing out but the SF model has btc at approximately $8700, thus we may be a bit over extended even still.

You may hate this model but I for one am a believer in it. At least in so much as it being a solid indicator of where the bottom is.

Would love to see a sharp move down to that $8700 level and as sharp a bounce back up. Long wick would be hugely positive in signaling the next wave up.

Anything under 10k is a gift so relax and btfd.

Submitted August 29, 2019 at 05:47AM by abalcs81 http://bit.ly/2HKLdWT

Switzerland: purchasing Bitcoins at a train ticket machine - It works just fine

All you need is mobile phone + credit card / cash. So easy! via /r/Bitcoin http://bit.ly/2zsCaoN

Lucky Bitcoin Doggo for Everyone!

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The Most Useful Instruments on The Crypto Market

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$150 million worth of Longs just got Liquidated at BitMEX

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Submitted August 29, 2019 at 02:54AM by coinsmash1 http://bit.ly/2UciJdm

Global Gold Industry Hit By "Forgery Crisis" As Fake Kilobars Flood The Physical Market... Meanwhile Bitcoin's protocol verifies authenticity of every single Bitcoin ever mined every 10 minutes.

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It's BUSINESS AS USUAL on the Bitcoin Network... 2.7K Transactions with a Median TX value of $3.8k in the last block

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Cryptoart: A Decade and Beyond

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Submitted August 29, 2019 at 01:15AM by cryptoart http://bit.ly/2Pi9pG7

I can't believe it's not Bitcoin

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Submitted August 29, 2019 at 12:00PM by CP70 http://bit.ly/30RvexL

Announcing "Mastering the Lightning Network"

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Daily Discussion, August 29, 2019

The most popular dating site of this month

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Submitted August 29, 2019 at 04:40PM by This_Camel http://bit.ly/2Ldwwwi

Wednesday 28 August 2019

When they tell you bitcoin is going down

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Submitted August 29, 2019 at 09:50AM by lil-zucci http://bit.ly/2L16r4K

Western Sydney a ‘crypto hotspot’, 25% more female traders

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Submitted August 29, 2019 at 01:41PM by ProofHomework http://bit.ly/2MLtcLR

I can't believe it's not Bitcoin

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When they tell you bitcoin is going down

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Bitcoin is on sale today!

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Submitted August 29, 2019 at 04:32AM by nitayp02 http://bit.ly/2Pnw4kg

If you believe in BTC's cyclical nature

Then today I'd guess we're in a similar position as we were in October 2016. Roughly $500-600 range back then, or half of the ATH and right on the SF model value.Today the same price behavior is playing out but the SF model has btc at approximately $8700, thus we may be a bit over extended even still.You may hate this model but I for one am a believer in it. At least in so much as it being a solid indicator of where the bottom is.Would love to see a sharp move down to that $8700 level and as sharp a bounce back up. Long wick would be hugely positive in signaling the next wave up.Anything under 10k is a gift so relax and btfd. via /r/Bitcoin http://bit.ly/2HKLdWT

$150 million worth of Longs just got Liquidated at BitMEX

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My own full node!

Well, I'm happy to say that it took less than an hour to get setup. I've used the script curl https://bitnodes.earn.com/install-full-node.sh | sh to get started. It literally takes care of 95% of the work, only thing missing is to adjust the settings in bitcoin.conf.

Since I expected it would be much harder I decided to setup an Electrum Personal Server. It also took much much less than I expected, probably had it up and running 15 minutes from the moment I opened it's github page.

I'm super happy to have my own node. It certainly isn't perfect since I'm using a VPS to run it, but I'll be getting a $50 Raspberry Pi and running it at home as soon as possible.

If you have never looked into running a full node I very much encourage you to do it, it's SO much easier than people make it out to be and you'll be doing a great service to yourself and the network.

Submitted August 28, 2019 at 04:35PM by heelhookrc http://bit.ly/2UgdYzx

Gold Market Flooded With 'Fake' Bars; Bitcoin Critics Please STFU

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Submitted August 28, 2019 at 07:10PM by himadri-saha http://bit.ly/32jqkKf

Announcing: Mastering the Lightning Network by O'Reilly Media Andreas M. Antonopoulos, Olaoluwa Osuntokun (roasbeef), René Pickhardt.

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Andrew Yang Just Made Bitcoin And Blockchain A Big 2020 U.S. Presidential Election Issue

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Paid our employees with Bitcoin, now we're sanctioned and closed.

Aware of Internet security risks, and because we're still inside and we don't want more problems if this information gets to the wrong people, in this case i'll try to hide things such as addresses, the name of our CEO and delicate info which can be used against us.

I'm sorry if the post is too long... There's a lot going on and i really need to explain almost everything with detail, believe me, is important.

We have to go into context here, since Hugo Chavez came to power he started to expropriate companies, simply because they were private sector companies, Ok hold on... Don't even try to convince me about the "fair" causes of his expropiations, that was a communist measure to get money from companies and destroy the private sector and jobs, it helps them to control the people, i lived it.

In 2010, about more than 1000 companies were already expropriated and left to nothing, machinery was sold or robed, production was destroyed.

The person who decided to write/post this article here with my help on the internet is P.J., 53yo is a businessman in Venezuela, my boss and friend. CEO of the textile company manufacturer where was working at, started as the corporate sales manager, AJ Confections in Barquisimeto city, he's been into textile manufacturing since the 2000, with hard work he managed to make the company grow.

In 2011, afraid of being expropriated for the reasons;

1- It was always a private company.

2- It was growing fast.

3- The payroll of employees was bigger enough to make Chavez come and say "THIS COMPANY BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE, NOT TO THE BOSS, EXPROPRIATED!" as we saw him a couple times here and there. P.J. decided to turn the company into "Low profile", removed the most visual marketing work, and it was now a "behind closed doors" facility. Everything good, people still working, good payments, vacations, christmas bonus (El aguinaldo), blah blah blah, everything in the laws.

Time goes by and Chavez died, when Maduro came to power the situation in Venezuela became worse and worse every day, many employees decided to leave the country, and the company was sudenly numbers down, P.J. was forced to sell part of the company to survive the moment, in 2016 it was already a smaller building with less people working in, this is when i jump in to save company... Or maybe not, i was the younger of the company, joined thanks to my dad's friendship with P.J. I was needing a job to help myself pay the university (Yacambú) so he gave me a chance to do whatever in there, help and get paid.

I saw a problem, hyperinflation. A.J. Confections have been manufacturing uniforms and clothes for bigger companies (e.g. Loquillos, Traki, Ceramicas Caribe (before it's close), Ceramicas vizcaya, Corporación Zenit, I&S Lara, etc) with big personel, the payments were good enough, the next day is worthless, i mean;

Work delivered, payment made (In Bolivares) equivalent to $350, the next day, those $350 are now $180, next day $100, and so it goes. Accepting dollars was dangerous and by the moment, kinda impossible. We needed a way to protect our capital from the degenerate Bolivar hyperinflation.

The immediate solution?... Of course it was Bitcoin.

I've been involded into Crypto since 2016, (Not trading at all, but learning a lot and trying some mining with my PC, studying the whole system), In the late 2018 i proposed P.J. to adopt Bitcoin as a payment method, i explained everything and he accepted, everything fine, weeks later we decided to try to pay employees in Bitcoin too, We did a little private conference for all the employees about Bitcoin (What is it, how to use it, how to exchange it to local currency if needed, etc), some agreed, some still wanted Bolivares, everything fine, but the point is, the adoption began, sincerelly, i was feeling great because thanks to my acquiried knowledge about Bitcoin, i was saving A.J. Confections.

At this point we were: Stable company, crypto adoption, crypto payments, everything running "stable", everyone good.

Recently he hired a new seamstress, her name is Ingrid Leon, she was coming from Caracas to find a job, and... she's a Chavista, Maduro supporter, knew that because of her CV, he used to work with the government... That... was a big mistake in my opinion and i told him that, he didn't cared about because the woman's work as seamstress was actually pretty good.

End of the month, we explained to her that she's able to get paid in crypto, principally Bitcoin, the poor mind's woman started talking shit about it, saying that's fake money, an "Imperialist" strategy of us, the bourgeois oligarch to opress the poor and scam them paying in Fake money, that we're making fun of her job and we're scammers, and just in case we should be using "Petro" instead of Bitcoin, on the orders of "Our workman president Nicolas Maduro" she said. Again, we tried to explain that "Petro" is the real scam, she didn't understood a single fuck, then we told her to stop, it's ok, fuck, we can pay you in Bolivares too, she accepted, once we paid her, she left and never came back.

Next week, 2 random guys came at us, she sued us at SUNACRIP (Instead of suing us at the Ministry of Labor), that was starting to smell bad...

"SUNACRIP" (Superintendencia Nacional de Criptoactivos y actividades conexas) Is a uperintendence institution to control the people's crypto, Petro "token" is the Maduro's shitcoin for laundering their crime money (If you want to know more about it: https://www.ethnews.com/venezuela-unveils-new-crypto-regulations), same happened with the "official exchanges" they made last years to change Bolivares for Dollars (Cadivi, Cencoex, Dicom, Simadi, etc) first they "work" properly, then they scam the people and blame the US, we never wanted to register our company in that bullshit, i mean, WHY? We don't wanna use your Petro, we're using Bitcoin.

We probably would give it a chance and take a look if this wasn't an authoritarian narco communist criminal regime and the laws were clear enough to trust.

Both SUNACRIP functionaries when suddenly came to knock our door, asked questions like these:

-Why haven't we registered the company in the SUNACRIP?, As we're now using crypto.

-Who gave you permission to pay the employees in Bitcoin?

-Why have we payed employees with Bitcoin and not petro?

-Why haven't we declared those Bitcoin taxes to the government?

Are you kidding me???? Does "Bitcoin Taxes" even exist here?, actually i asked them to show me where's that supposed law, we needed to read that, if it even exists. No concrete answer, only political arguments and propaganda.

The case was turning bad against us, the result: We were "exhorted" to pay up to 3 BTC to them for " Crimes Against Improper Access to the Cryptoactive Integral System", or the company was going to be sanctioned/expropriated with deadline 31 July, 2019 and P.J. to preventive jail. I was like, ok, where's the order? I mean, a paperwork, if you are going to threat us legally, do it legally. One more time, no concrete answer, just "That's how it works, pay or we're gonna close your company".

At this point we were already not that worried because "If they don't do it legally, they can't do it... Right?", but, scared as well because they're still from the gov, this gov is literaly criminal... They can do whatever they want some times.

We've been using Crypto before they made those "laws" (They actually did it... https://sunacrip.gob.ve/files/gaceta-oficial-41.575.pdf), but since when making a Bitcoin transaction is "Improper access to the cryptoactive integral system"? Wtf? We're not hacking Petro blockchain system or Bitcoin wallets, now we have to pay to the government for having access and owning BTC, come on.

Also, we never saw that laws announcement, i mean, the whole Petro shit was a show, but the laws were never shown or announced, also we barely have internet access, just imagine, e.g... You're from the US, and you're using Bitcoin, tomorrow Trump announces he creates TrumpuCoin and you all have to use it if you do crypto, ok anything wrong, you laugh and keep using BTC, the next day you get arrested because you used Bitcoin instead of TrumpuCoin but he never announced that law in particular, just created it and left it a PDF hidden in his website, something just like that is what happened.

Btw, big stores like "Traki" are currently starting to adopt crypto now:

https://toshitimes.com/venezuelas-walmart-traki-started-accepting-bitcoin/

They're probably sticking to the sunacrip laws and paying them... Also, big companies aren't easy target to the kind of government harassment smaller companies are exposed to (e.g. La Polar, years and years of harrasment and they still can't shut it down, because they have enough to pay and power to stay...)

So, we barely had around 0.4 BTC in our company wallet at the moment, and even putting the individual personel BTC holdings together we were around 0.73 BTC, there was no way to pay 3 whole BTC, we were thinking about selling the machines to pay, but that would be a production cut off, or try get the funds by crowdfunding but there's not crowdfunding sites like GoFundMe for LATAM or Crypto related available for us here.

Deadline came, the August 14th morning there was a Military SUV with 4 FANB guards (Military) and 2 SUNACRIP functionaries waiting for us, i started recording with my phone the whole stuff but one of them tooked it away from me, yeah my phone was robbed off by a military, a normal day in Venezuela. They took P.J. with them, also the FANB took away 7 sewing machines, 1 8-head embroidery machine and 1 "Octopus" heat transfer printing machine. The facility was left with some remaining raw material, closed and padlocked.

A couple hours later P.J. was freed, in exchange of not arresting him, they just made him sign paperwork where he """""VOLUNTARILY""""" RETURNS THE COMPANY" to the state, in agreement to the government for law violations and crypto related crimes. And now under vigilation to make sure he's not mining or something crypto related or textile business again.

We're now expropriated in the best Chavez/communist way, arbitrary, for no concrete reasons and without being able to fight it in an impartial tribunal. Fight for it? Lawyers? Try to get it back? Come on dude, wake up, this isn't a free country, we're in Venezuela, try that is to get killed or jailed, real laws doesn't exist here, only when they use them against the people, or if you're a big enough company with enough money to bribe the state, you can ask any Venezuelan what can we do if our private company gets expropriated, ask few, only if you have a lot of monet, you can avoid being expropriated paying them what they ask for... (If we just paid them the 3 BTC, we could still have the company), there's no turning back. The next week the SENIAT will change all the company information (CEO, address, etc) God knows what's gonna happen with our stuff, the facility will probably become some political meeting shit.

Ask a Venezuelan... If anyone from the government catches you doing something they think you shouldn't or affects them, there's no way to take them away from you, only paying them or just in case having a "contact" inside who can helps u, otherwise, you'll be facing the consequences, we don't have any power here.

As i'm writing this, we already decided to move on and don't stand still, we simply can't, what are we gonna do here? Venezuela is doomed more and more every day, we're qualified people and we can make this work again, but not here.

We are now 8 people without job including me and P.J.

Our 6 main employees remaining were looking for job right now as the company is closed;

1- Transporter

4- Seamstress

1- Doorkeeper/Watchman

Sorry for the quality

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I just managed to contact each of them asap today and talked in person about it this afternoon, (i'm still organizing a reunion, we need all to talk about this, all together), at the end of the day, they all agreed, but they don't trust this is going to work at all, anyways we need to try, there's no other way, with the remaining company's BTC we'll be helping them for their daily needs and not leaving them alone, but time is running against us...

Think about it, asking for charity? Ok, isn't a bad idea, there are so many charity organizations around here and there helping Venezuelans in bad situation, but the flow of money would be one way only, we don't want to depend of charity, we want to rebuild our basis, be independient again and then, be able to help more people to be independient, we are qualified people.

So let's get to the point:

There are 3 machines left in the depot (actually a house) outside Barquisimeto, they still working fine, tested today, we gonna sell everything, even the house... We're already talking with a real state agent to study it and set a fair price (overall is about $12k)

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No verification reddit paper here because i forgot to tell P.J.'s wife that detail, P.J. wasn't at home, if you want me to post it again with the reddit paper, wait for tomorrow so i can tell the ma'am or P.J. to take the pictures again.

We want to re-open our company and take our people with us, outside the country... We're thinking about Perú because is not so expensive to go there, also there's high quality cloth, we used to import textile raw material from Perú, we have a couple company partners there, and also knowns and family friends living there with the permanent residence status aproved, which means they can help us with the paperwork and then the easy transfer of our people with a Job Visa, so we think is a good idea to start over right there and also we'll be helping people and help Perú itself with the Venezuelan migration, how? Creating jobs for our people and contributing to the economy grow.

We the Venezuelans, as i see, are becoming a plage in LATAM, and we completely understand them all, but unfortunately it wont stop... More and more people is trying to leave Venezuela every day as the situation is worse every minute, the borders will eventually collapse more, and politicians (gov and opo) are just playing around, if we create jobs there and hire our people, we'll be fighting against that informality people hates, contributing to economy grow, and give people a second chance of living independient.

Also, for sure keep using the Bitcoin Payments, we'd like to impulse crypto adoption in Perú.

So, our summary plan is: Get funds, go to Perú, do the paperwork to legalyze the company there, hire a facility, hire/get the machinery, take our people, start over, create jobs, help Venezuelans and the Perú itself.

I know i know, "Isn't that simple", but tell me something, should we stand still, here?? In Venezuela?? The answer is No. We have to start moving right now, staying here is suicide, the minimun wage is now about $3 a month, THREE... DOLLARS... A... MONTH, we simply can't, this is inhuman, starting over here is a big mistake.

We can make it by hard work if we can get an initial little push, i know and let's be real, most of the people in the internet isn't open at all to help the others or give away their money, many afraid of scams, totally understandable because there's a lot of cases, but this is not one of them.

That's why we want to:

1- Sell the depot/house that's about 4300 sqft and everything else (hopefully in crypto) and use that money.

2- Contact someone to trust and make a serious GoFundMe campaing or another platform (we're not able from here in latam, is only USA and Canada as far as i know), or if you know any Fund Raising crypto related - available in LATAM, please let us know, i can't find it yet, we'll provide all our (ex) company documets and the whole case to verify everything (our identities, ID cards, Company register, anything else is needed) and post it there, we're trying our best here in Venezuela, but, isn't enough, this country is doomed for at least 10 more years, staying here is lose time, at least... We want to get enough to take everyone out of here.

In exchange of any help, we still have some articles in the depot, so we're offering some brand new clothing, you'll be able to choose any of it or ask for a personalized one i think we can still use some of these machines, i'm going to ask about it tomorrow, worldwide shipping as i see some courier services are still working, and once we're back on the road we'll offer discounts and partnerships, we can make Crypto project's T-shirts, hoodies, uniforms, whatever you need we can do it, some examples:

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And please, don't try to defend those socialist criminals or their "laws", seriously, i've had enough of the lefties. Don't waste your time.

Also if you want to help but you need more proofs, documents, bills /invoices, ask me by DM, there are addresses, names and financial info there, i'm not posting that in particular publicly, So, easy, i send you the doc/pic by private.

Now, if you think you're "that person" to trust and make the GoFundMe stuff, please contact me asap.

If you're from Venezuela, por favor... De pana no vayas a compartir esta vaina en redes sociales o donde pueda hacer ruido, lo menos que queremos es que nos vengan a joder otra vez, y si quieres comprar las maquinas o incluso la casa, contáctame y conversamos.

We're opened to ideas too, we decided to post this here because... We actually don't know where to, as i'm the only one in this company that speaks english and was able to write this with P.J.'s help i'm gonna post it in other forums and sites (english and spanish, not on social media) to get ideas and help, we really want and need a second chance, i hope we can get guidance and help soon.

Today is 27/08/19, 23:59, i'm posting this and going to sleep.

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Paid our employees with Bitcoin, now we're sanctioned and closed.

Crypto payments to employees is the best for innovation, and a step forward to mass adoption, but as always, you need to be careful about where you make it, how, and also, who you let to know about it.Aware of Internet security risks, and because we're still inside and we don't want more problems if this information gets to the wrong people, in this case i'll try to hide things such as addresses, the name of our CEO and delicate info which can be used against us.I'm sorry if the post is too long... There's a lot going on and i really need to explain almost everything with detail, believe me, is important.We have to go into context here, since Hugo Chavez came to power he started to expropriate companies, simply because they were private sector companies, Ok hold on... Don't even try to convince me about the "fair" causes of his expropiations, that was a communist measure to get money from companies and destroy the private sector and jobs, it helps them to control the people, i lived it.In 2010, about more than 1000 companies were already expropriated and left to nothing, machinery was sold or robed, production was destroyed.The person who decided to write/post this article here with my help on the internet is P.J., 53yo is a businessman in Venezuela, my boss and friend. CEO of the textile company manufacturer where was working at, started as the corporate sales manager, AJ Confections in Barquisimeto city, he's been into textile manufacturing since the 2000, with hard work he managed to make the company grow.In 2011, afraid of being expropriated for the reasons;1- It was always a private company.2- It was growing fast.3- The payroll of employees was bigger enough to make Chavez come and say "THIS COMPANY BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE, NOT TO THE BOSS, EXPROPRIATED!" as we saw him a couple times here and there. P.J. decided to turn the company into "Low profile", removed the most visual marketing work, and it was now a "behind closed doors" facility. Everything good, people still working, good payments, vacations, christmas bonus (El aguinaldo), blah blah blah, everything in the laws.Time goes by and Chavez died, when Maduro came to power the situation in Venezuela became worse and worse every day, many employees decided to leave the country, and the company was sudenly numbers down, P.J. was forced to sell part of the company to survive the moment, in 2016 it was already a smaller building with less people working in, this is when i jump in to save company... Or maybe not, i was the younger of the company, joined thanks to my dad's friendship with P.J. I was needing a job to help myself pay the university (Yacambú) so he gave me a chance to do whatever in there, help and get paid.I saw a problem, hyperinflation. A.J. Confections have been manufacturing uniforms and clothes for bigger companies (e.g. Loquillos, Traki, Ceramicas Caribe (before it's close), Ceramicas vizcaya, Corporación Zenit, I&S Lara, etc) with big personel, the payments were good enough, the next day is worthless, i mean;Work delivered, payment made (In Bolivares) equivalent to $350, the next day, those $350 are now $180, next day $100, and so it goes. Accepting dollars was dangerous and by the moment, kinda impossible. We needed a way to protect our capital from the degenerate Bolivar hyperinflation.The immediate solution?... Of course it was Bitcoin.I've been involded into Crypto since 2016, (Not trading at all, but learning a lot and trying some mining with my PC, studying the whole system), In the late 2018 i proposed P.J. to adopt Bitcoin as a payment method, i explained everything and he accepted, everything fine, weeks later we decided to try to pay employees in Bitcoin too, We did a little private conference for all the employees about Bitcoin (What is it, how to use it, how to exchange it to local currency if needed, etc), some agreed, some still wanted Bolivares, everything fine, but the point is, the adoption began, sincerelly, i was feeling great because thanks to my acquiried knowledge about Bitcoin, i was saving A.J. Confections.At this point we were: Stable company, crypto adoption, crypto payments, everything running "stable", everyone good.Recently he hired a new seamstress, her name is Ingrid Leon, she was coming from Caracas to find a job, and... she's a Chavista, Maduro supporter, knew that because of her CV, he used to work with the government... That... was a big mistake in my opinion and i told him that, he didn't cared about because the woman's work as seamstress was actually pretty good.End of the month, we explained to her that she's able to get paid in crypto, principally Bitcoin, the poor mind's woman started talking shit about it, saying that's fake money, an "Imperialist" strategy of us, the bourgeois oligarch to opress the poor and scam them paying in Fake money, that we're making fun of her job and we're scammers, and just in case we should be using "Petro" instead of Bitcoin, on the orders of "Our workman president Nicolas Maduro" she said. Again, we tried to explain that "Petro" is the real scam, she didn't understood a single fuck, then we told her to stop, it's ok, fuck, we can pay you in Bolivares too, she accepted, once we paid her, she left and never came back.Next week, 2 random guys came at us, she sued us at SUNACRIP (Instead of suing us at the Ministry of Labor), that was starting to smell bad..."SUNACRIP" (Superintendencia Nacional de Criptoactivos y actividades conexas) Is a uperintendence institution to control the people's crypto, Petro "token" is the Maduro's shitcoin for laundering their crime money (If you want to know more about it: http://bit.ly/30LZJoM), same happened with the "official exchanges" they made last years to change Bolivares for Dollars (Cadivi, Cencoex, Dicom, Simadi, etc) first they "work" properly, then they scam the people and blame the US, we never wanted to register our company in that bullshit, i mean, WHY? We don't wanna use your Petro, we're using Bitcoin.We probably would give it a chance and take a look if this wasn't an authoritarian narco communist criminal regime and the laws were clear enough to trust.Both SUNACRIP functionaries when suddenly came to knock our door, asked questions like these:-Why haven't we registered the company in the SUNACRIP?, As we're now using crypto.-Who gave you permission to pay the employees in Bitcoin?-Why have we payed employees with Bitcoin and not petro?-Why haven't we declared those Bitcoin taxes to the government?Are you kidding me???? Does "Bitcoin Taxes" even exist here?, actually i asked them to show me where's that supposed law, we needed to read that, if it even exists. No concrete answer, only political arguments and propaganda.The case was turning bad against us, the result: We were "exhorted" to pay up to 3 BTC to them for " Crimes Against Improper Access to the Cryptoactive Integral System", or the company was going to be sanctioned/expropriated with deadline 31 July, 2019 and P.J. to preventive jail. I was like, ok, where's the order? I mean, a paperwork, if you are going to threat us legally, do it legally. One more time, no concrete answer, just "That's how it works, pay or we're gonna close your company".At this point we were already not that worried because "If they don't do it legally, they can't do it... Right?", but, scared as well because they're still from the gov, this gov is literaly criminal... They can do whatever they want some times.We've been using Crypto before they made those "laws" (They actually did it... http://bit.ly/2ZoWfLt), but since when making a Bitcoin transaction is "Improper access to the cryptoactive integral system"? Wtf? We're not hacking Petro blockchain system or Bitcoin wallets, now we have to pay to the government for having access and owning BTC, come on.Also, we never saw that laws announcement, i mean, the whole Petro shit was a show, but the laws were never shown or announced, also we barely have internet access, just imagine, e.g... You're from the US, and you're using Bitcoin, tomorrow Trump announces he creates TrumpuCoin and you all have to use it if you do crypto, ok anything wrong, you laugh and keep using BTC, the next day you get arrested because you used Bitcoin instead of TrumpuCoin but he never announced that law in particular, just created it and left it a PDF hidden in his website, something just like that is what happened.Btw, big stores like "Traki" are currently starting to adopt crypto now:http://bit.ly/30LZKck probably sticking to the sunacrip laws and paying them... Also, big companies aren't easy target to the kind of government harassment smaller companies are exposed to (e.g. La Polar, years and years of harrasment and they still can't shut it down, because they have enough to pay and power to stay...)So, we barely had around 0.4 BTC in our company wallet at the moment, and even putting the individual personel BTC holdings together we were around 0.73 BTC, there was no way to pay 3 whole BTC, we were thinking about selling the machines to pay, but that would be a production cut off, or try get the funds by crowdfunding but there's not crowdfunding sites like GoFundMe for LATAM or Crypto related available for us here.Deadline came, the August 14th morning there was a Military SUV with 4 FANB guards (Military) and 2 SUNACRIP functionaries waiting for us, i started recording with my phone the whole stuff but one of them tooked it away from me, yeah my phone was robbed off by a military, a normal day in Venezuela. They took P.J. with them, also the FANB took away 7 sewing machines, 1 8-head embroidery machine and 1 "Octopus" heat transfer printing machine. The facility was left with some remaining raw material, closed and padlocked.A couple hours later P.J. was freed, in exchange of not arresting him, they just made him sign paperwork where he """""VOLUNTARILY""""" RETURNS THE COMPANY" to the state, in agreement to the government for law violations and crypto related crimes. And now under vigilation to make sure he's not mining or something crypto related or textile business again.We're now expropriated in the best Chavez/communist way, arbitrary, for no concrete reasons and without being able to fight it in an impartial tribunal. Fight for it? Lawyers? Try to get it back? Come on dude, wake up, this isn't a free country, we're in Venezuela, try that is to get killed or jailed, real laws doesn't exist here, only when they use them against the people, or if you're a big enough company with enough money to bribe the state, you can ask any Venezuelan what can we do if our private company gets expropriated, ask few, only if you have a lot of monet, you can avoid being expropriated paying them what they ask for... (If we just paid them the 3 BTC, we could still have the company), there's no turning back. The next week the SENIAT will change all the company information (CEO, address, etc) God knows what's gonna happen with our stuff, the facility will probably become some political meeting shit.Ask a Venezuelan... If anyone from the government catches you doing something they think you shouldn't or affects them, there's no way to take them away from you, only paying them or just in case having a "contact" inside who can helps u, otherwise, you'll be facing the consequences, we don't have any power here.As i'm writing this, we already decided to move on and don't stand still, we simply can't, what are we gonna do here? Venezuela is doomed more and more every day, we're qualified people and we can make this work again, but not here.We are now 8 people without job including me and P.J.Our 6 main employees remaining were looking for job right now as the company is closed;1- Transporter4- Seamstress1- Doorkeeper/WatchmanSorry for the qualityhttps://i.redd.it/iyp1xw97a4j31.jpghttps://i.redd.it/ag6ohgpv94j31.jpghttps://i.redd.it/e7bhqn6w94j31.jpghttps://i.redd.it/rahi2blw94j31.jpghttps://i.redd.it/7efufwyw94j31.jpghttps://i.redd.it/hh7ghidx94j31.jpgI just managed to contact each of them asap today and talked in person about it this afternoon, (i'm still organizing a reunion, we need all to talk about this, all together), at the end of the day, they all agreed, but they don't trust this is going to work at all, anyways we need to try, there's no other way, with the remaining company's BTC we'll be helping them for their daily needs and not leaving them alone, but time is running against us...Think about it, asking for charity? Ok, isn't a bad idea, there are so many charity organizations around here and there helping Venezuelans in bad situation, but the flow of money would be one way only, we don't want to depend of charity, we want to rebuild our basis, be independient again and then, be able to help more people to be independient, we are qualified people.So let's get to the point:There are 3 machines left in the depot (actually a house) outside Barquisimeto, they still working fine, tested today, we gonna sell everything, even the house... We're already talking with a real state agent to study it and set a fair price (overall is about $12k)https://i.redd.it/qefkt6brb4j31.jpghttps://i.redd.it/1nfruorrb4j31.jpghttps://i.redd.it/5grg141sb4j31.jpghttps://i.redd.it/jmrfjrasb4j31.jpghttps://i.redd.it/0nvfqgjsb4j31.jpghttps://i.redd.it/mufiyhusb4j31.jpgNo verification reddit paper here because i forgot to tell P.J.'s wife that detail, P.J. wasn't at home, if you want me to post it again with the reddit paper, wait for tomorrow so i can tell the ma'am or P.J. to take the pictures again.We want to re-open our company and take our people with us, outside the country... We're thinking about Perú because is not so expensive to go there, also there's high quality cloth, we used to import textile raw material from Perú, we have a couple company partners there, and also knowns and family friends living there with the permanent residence status aproved, which means they can help us with the paperwork and then the easy transfer of our people with a Job Visa, so we think is a good idea to start over right there and also we'll be helping people and help Perú itself with the Venezuelan migration, how? Creating jobs for our people and contributing to the economy grow.We the Venezuelans, as i see, are becoming a plage in LATAM, and we completely understand them all, but unfortunately it wont stop... More and more people is trying to leave Venezuela every day as the situation is worse every minute, the borders will eventually collapse more, and politicians (gov and opo) are just playing around, if we create jobs there and hire our people, we'll be fighting against that informality people hates, contributing to economy grow, and give people a second chance of living independient.Also, for sure keep using the Bitcoin Payments, we'd like to impulse crypto adoption in Perú.So, our summary plan is: Get funds, go to Perú, do the paperwork to legalyze the company there, hire a facility, hire/get the machinery, take our people, start over, create jobs, help Venezuelans and the Perú itself.I know i know, "Isn't that simple", but tell me something, should we stand still, here?? In Venezuela?? The answer is No. We have to start moving right now, staying here is suicide, the minimun wage is now about $3 a month, THREE... DOLLARS... A... MONTH, we simply can't, this is inhuman, starting over here is a big mistake.We can make it by hard work if we can get an initial little push, i know and let's be real, most of the people in the internet isn't open at all to help the others or give away their money, many afraid of scams, totally understandable because there's a lot of cases, but this is not one of them.That's why we want to:1- Sell the depot/house that's about 4300 sqft and everything else (hopefully in crypto) and use that money.2- Contact someone to trust and make a serious GoFundMe campaing or another platform (we're not able from here in latam, is only USA and Canada as far as i know), or if you know any Fund Raising crypto related - available in LATAM, please let us know, i can't find it yet, we'll provide all our (ex) company documets and the whole case to verify everything (our identities, ID cards, Company register, anything else is needed) and post it there, we're trying our best here in Venezuela, but, isn't enough, this country is doomed for at least 10 more years, staying here is lose time, at least... We want to get enough to take everyone out of here.In exchange of any help, we still have some articles in the depot, so we're offering some brand new clothing, you'll be able to choose any of it or ask for a personalized one i think we can still use some of these machines, i'm going to ask about it tomorrow, worldwide shipping as i see some courier services are still working, and once we're back on the road we'll offer discounts and partnerships, we can make Crypto project's T-shirts, hoodies, uniforms, whatever you need we can do it, some examples:https://i.redd.it/1o3f7fe7f4j31.jpghttps://i.redd.it/y5q85ix7f4j31.jpghttps://i.redd.it/3pv6xig8f4j31.jpghttps://i.redd.it/0c57vww8f4j31.jpgAnd please, don't try to defend those socialist criminals or their "laws", seriously, i've had enough of the lefties. Don't waste your time.Also if you want to help but you need more proofs, documents, bills /invoices, ask me by DM, there are addresses, names and financial info there, i'm not posting that in particular publicly, So, easy, i send you the doc/pic by private.Now, if you think you're "that person" to trust and make the GoFundMe stuff, please contact me asap.If you're from Venezuela, por favor... De pana no vayas a compartir esta vaina en redes sociales o donde pueda hacer ruido, lo menos que queremos es que nos vengan a joder otra vez, y si quieres comprar las maquinas o incluso la casa, contáctame y conversamos.We're opened to ideas too, we decided to post this here because... We actually don't know where to, as i'm the only one in this company that speaks english and was able to write this with P.J.'s help i'm gonna post it in other forums and sites (english and spanish, not on social media) to get ideas and help, we really want and need a second chance, i hope we can get guidance and help soon.Today is 27/08/19, 23:59, i'm posting this and going to sleep.IF I DON'T REPLY IS BECAUSE I PROBABLY DON'T HAVE INTERNET OR ELECTRICITY, SOME TIMES I NEED TO USE VPN AND WAIT FOR IT TO LOAD, INTERNET SPEED HERE IS ABOUT 60 kb/s, PATIENCE. via /r/Bitcoin http://bit.ly/2ZvDKow